PRODUCTIVITY TIPS TO HELP MASTER YOUR TIME

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EPISODE 13

Dr Shannon Irvine Productivity Tips

ABOUT THE SHOW

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Today on the show I am joined by Dr Shannon Irvine, productivity business achievement mentor and founder of not-for-profit Mosaic Vision. 

She is the founder of Mosaic Vision, a non-profit that serves AIDS orphans in rural Uganda Africa. The mission of Mosaic Vision is to restore the lives of AIDS orphans. Dr Irvine is also a PhD in Psychology with an emphasis in neuro-psychology and neuro-plasticity. She uses her credentials to help the orphans in Uganda thrive.

Dr Irvine is also a business mentor who loves helping others master their thoughts, habits, emotions, and schedules to live the life and business that honours God and their priorities.

WHAT YOU'LL LEARN

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  • The business journey for Dr Irvine and the lessons learnt
  • How she juggles being a successful business owner, charity founder and a mother
  • Why cookie cutter systems may not always be the best fit for you
  • Why getting an outside view of your business is important
  • How to create the work and life balance that you want by understanding how your brain works
  • Importance of seeking out the right mentors for your personal development
  • Why you need to know how you are ‘wired’ and what are you superpowers
  • How to measure your time spent in checking our emails and social media account
  • Planning the night before for the three things to do the next day towards your big goal
  • The steps to take to reduce the amount of time you spend checking your email
  • Identifying that email is other people’s priorities, and not yours
  • The physical impact on our brains of having notifications constantly interrupting our thinking
  • Putting systems in place to protect yourself from yourself
  • The impact her charity work in Mosaic Vision is making to AIDS orphans in Uganda
  • Breaking down your to-do list
  • The impact of completing 3 x 15 min tasks can have on your brain and your feeling of success

EPISODE TRANSCRIPT

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Jason:
G’day, g’day, Jason here for another episode of the “Business Made Easy”
podcast, where we make business easy. Thanks for joining me for another
week, another round and we’ve got a great show today. Whatever you’re
doing in the world thought, I hope you’re going well and really having some
fun out there in life. And kicking some goals.
If you’re having any successes or got some cool stuff going on, why don’t you
drop me a line at Jason at business made easy podcast dot com
([email protected]) I’d love to hear what you’re up to
and what’s happening out there. Or even if you’ve got some feedback about
the show, good or bad, let me know and just drop it in an email. I’d love to
hear from you and catch up.
But we’ve got a great episode this week, we are talking with Dr Shannon
Irvine. And Shannon is not only a business owner and entrepreneur, and has
been since her early twenties. But she is also a neuropsychologist, doctor of
neuropsychology. She is a high-performance achievement coach and mentor,
so she basically helps you to get more out of your life and, she’s that mentor
there to help drive success and create change in your life. And she does an
amazing job of that.
And in her spare time, and I don’t know how she finds it. But she certainly
does a lot, she’s also the founder of Mosaic Vision. Which is a not-for-profit
organisation that restores the lives of AIDS orphans in Uganda. So, basically
they, rather than go and, I love this charity, rather than going and take
children out of their natural environment, where they’ve been orphaned
from their parents dying of AIDS. They actually go in and place surrogate
mothers in with these children to raise them in their own environment, their
own home.
And they’re getting some amazing results out of that, in that kids are growing
up now that were otherwise having to leave school and try and fend for the
family. This organisation sends them back to school, gets them educated and
really leads them into a happy life. So, a great story and we talk about that
today in the interview.
Shannon also shares with us, in the interview some just fantastic gems
regarding productivity and how to get more productivity in your business. I
really love this interview. I think you’re going to love it too, so I’m not going to
talk any further. And we’re gonna, or give away any more but we’re going to
head over to Shannon now and let’s hear from Shannon.
G’day everybody and we have, very fortunate today to have Dr Shannon
Irvine here with us. Hi Shannon, how are you going?
Shannon:
Hey, I’m good thanks or should I say ‘hey mates’?
Jason:
Yeah, g’day mate.
Shannon:
G’day mate.
Jason:
Thanks so much for joining us today, it really is great to have you here and I
want to start by. I mean you’re a really busy mum and entrepreneur, you’ve
been an entrepreneur since you were twenty (20). And running a busy
practice and also a charitable mission as well, so tell us about that Shannon, I
really want to understand what your day looks like.
Shannon:
Well like probably a lot of your listeners, I’m a multi-passionate person and I
think like most entrepreneurs, tend to be or business owners tend to be. And
I have always been an entrepreneur, like you said, it seems like from birth but
certainly starting in high school and on my way, brick and mortar restaurants
and my own marketing company, at one point.
Started my non-profit about twelve (12) years ago and we work in Uganda
with kids that have lost mum and dad to AIDS and help them restore their
childhoods by hiring caregivers or widows to move into their homes with
them, actually and send them back to school and such.
And at the same time, one of my passions is to be able to help build up
entrepreneurs with just productivity and goal setting systems and tools and
mindset type of things that have helped me survive being a mum of two and
pursuing my degrees and the businesses as well. And you just have to come
up with systems that work for people like us and that don’t get you to the
point where you feel like you’re going insane and you’re in that stress success
because that’s not fun for anybody.
Jason:
No.
Shannon:
Especially our family, right?
Jason:
Yeah, that’s it.
Shannon:
So I mentored people on the side of doing my non-profit but in the last year,
I’d say, I’ve really wanted to, expand that impact and be able to reach more
people. Because so many people, as you well know, Jason, are online and they
really don’t have people to reach out to face to face and be able to ask the
questions, the shortcuts, just the things of how to stay sane while we’re
wrestling with all this.
And some actionable systems that work instead of all the smattering of free
content that’s out there, that may or may not work for people.
Jason:
Yeah, there seems to be a lot of cookie cutter systems out there.
Shannon:
Yeah.
Jason:
The seven (7) ways to do this and six (6) ways to do that.
Shannon:
Yeah, yes.
Jason:
And I was talking to someone the other day, yesterday actually about that
very thing and information is so accessible now.
Shannon:
Yeah.
Jason:
And free to download and all those sorts of things but you really do need to
look at it in perspective of ‘is that right for me’? And ask yourself why.
So you mentioned there that you had some businesses back in the earlier
days. Is that, did you say in marketing and those sorts of things?
Shannon:
Yes, I had a marketing company. Actually, to, I was in the restaurant business
really, really young and ended up opening my own restaurant at twenty-one
(21) and did that for a few years, loved it, absolutely adored it but it is one of
those businesses that can burn you out pretty quickly. And, so we had an
opportunity to sell and I did that and just remained a foodie and a wine geek
but allowed the restauranteur business to be someone else’s.
And in that space, I started a marketing and public relations company to help
people, restauranteurs and things like that. You know how it’s always that
way, right Jason? It’s like step by step, you’re in one area and then you pivot a
little bit and I was still helping people that I was very familiar with and
comfortable within the food and wine and beverage industry.
But was able to help them grow in ways that they weren’t and went from
there.
Jason:
And that’s from being immersed in it, doing it and then you could see from the
outside of other people’s businesses what they needed to do in the
restaurant?Is that how that grew?
Shannon:
Exactly.
Jason:
That’s something I see all the time and I think, I know myself when I’m in
practice, dealing with clients. It’s always easier for me to see what’s wrong
with their business and what’s going on in their business, because I’m on the
outside of it.
Interesting. So did you, do you then study from there?Is that what happened?
How did you get into what you’re doing now?
Shannon:
Yeah, so I went, actually it was an interesting pivot. I always wanted to finish
up my doctorate degree and I thought it was going to be in business. My
undergraduate is in business and I was pursuing my masters and it was in my
time of pursuing my masters that I got pregnant with my firstborn.
And I had, my marketing company was doing really, really well. And I was
spending most of my vacation time doing philanthropic work and had an
opportunity to go to Uganda, right before I got pregnant actually.
And started hearing about child-headed homes and it was just one of those
moments where I knew, boy I could ignore this or I could..
Jason:
Do something.
Shannon:
.. go find another organisation that’s maybe doing something about this. But
God really spoke to my heart and just said ‘take care of the ones that I’ve put
in front of you’ and at the exact same time, one of the people there starting
telling me about Daniel and Dorcus, who ended up being our first two kids
from Mosaic Vision.
Jason:
Right.
Shannon:
And little did I know, they were nine (9) hours away from where we were
sitting in this hotel. Down in the bush, really hard to get to, I wouldn’t have
picked that place out in a million years. But God knows what he’s doing and
so I would love to say that I was ultraistic and Mother Teresa like and really
just said ‘yes, I’ll do it’.
But in reality, I said ‘no, I have a great business, what do you, no’. But it really
started haunting me that these kids didn’t have a voice and I knew enough
about business and I knew enough about how to run an organisation that I
knew I could make an impact. And at least get it going and so with my studies,
at that point after being there in Uganda for a couple of years, I pivoted with
my degree and went the direction of neuropsychology because I really saw a
couple things.
I saw the kids who lost mum and dad to AIDS suffering, much like our, the
veterans suffer, that go to war. That post-traumatic stress and I wanted to
find a way to be able to help them in a more impactful way. And by this time I
had really become very obsessed with how the brain works and how, why
some people are successful and some peopl
twenty-four (24) hours. And what is it about those people that make them,
they’re not just like a special group of people and then the rest of us.
Jason:
Yeah.
Shannon:
There’s got to be something within the brain, I thought that creates that.
Jason:
Yeah.
Shannon:
Or not and so it really fueled that desire to want to go, even another layer
deep on ‘how do I do this thing and do it well and do with excellence?’ And
still be a person that my family wants to be around and actually have the kind
of success that I want. Which is not stress success, my family and my children
and my faith; those are the most important things to me. But I still want to
crush it in my business.
And figuring out how to do all that required really starting to understand how
my brain was wired and then be able to help people see that too. Because it
really is less of a mystery than we make it out to be.
Jason:
Do you think, so really a key driver for you has been seeking your own
knowledge, your own understanding and coupled with your natural want to
help people? Yeah, like you touch on a really interesting point there about
wanting to understand what makes these people successful but you also
want to have your layer of, your, better word for it is, your filter over it. So
that your life still delivers you the same things that are important to you.
Shannon:
Yeah.
Jason:
Such as family, children etcetera. ‘Hey I can still be successful as well.’ And
find that way to balance it, balance is the word I was looking for in a
complicated way.
So, did you find the answer, did you find the thing that makes these people
successful?
Shannon:
Well, you eluded to it right then and that is. I know you and I share this DNA,
Jason, is that one of the other components that has always been huge for me
is seeking out people who have gone before me. Like mentors, and because
I’ve always sought that out in every area of my life; then I just naturally
wanted to like help people that were a few steps behind me, and that’s where
that kind of came from.
But in that, I kind of had a pivotal moment, I really do remember it pretty
vividly, where I was in my PhD, I was trying to figure it out. I was constantly
straddling the world of stress success and I knew there was a better way and
I. It was one of those moments, I’m like ‘oh my gosh’.
A couple of the mentors that I was really following at the time, they were
very successful and very motivated and very driven. But their family was a
mess. They never took vacations, they looked about ten (10) years older than
they really were and I looked at that and said ‘woah, wait a minute, I want
success but I don’t want that kind of success.’ And that kind of lead me down
that path of ‘I need to define when I get to the end of whatever that success is
for me, I want to be happy that I’m there’.
Jason:
Yeah, that’s it.
Shannon:
I don’t want to get there and just go ‘oh this sucks.’
Jason:
Yeah. Geez, I’ve worked hard to a place of unhappiness or where I don’t want
to be.
Shannon:
Yeah.
Jason:
I’m on the edge of a cliff now.
Shannon:
Yeah, so I just I really got focused on, ‘Okay, are there mentors? Are there
people that honour God, that honour their families, their marriages. They
honour their kids, they get that all right but are still are crushing it in their
business and are at the top of their game. And they’re not lacking, it’s not a
second thought. And, you know what, there are people out there like that and
so that is really what I started studying under. People like Chalene Johnson,
Pat Flynn is a mutual mentor of ours.
James Wedmore is another one of those, some of the people that you hear
out there that are really the real deal. As well as Amy Porterfield, in terms of
business and development, she’s fantastic. Honouring those things as well as
really doing that and then people that you may or may not have heard of, that
were physical mentors.
Like I would meet with them and have masterminds with them and that kind
of thing. And I really felt like that was the key to, that defining my success
was, what was it for me? And not doing that in a vacuum because I was
married. If I, because I’m naturally, I could work twenty-four (24) seven (7).
That’s my natural DNA bent and it is not my husband’s. And so, if I’m just
doing that in a vacuum then we’ll get to that place and we would not be in a
place of success, for us as a family.
Jason:
Yeah.
Shannon:
And so, it would be off balance. So just spending time talking it through with
him and just really defining that so clearly, so that. That’s so much of the goal
setting thing, is just having such deep clarity, not based on what everybody
else is telling you is right.
Jason:
Yeah.
Shannon:
But what is truly in your DNA and at the core of you is right and feels good
and feels like success.
Jason:
Yeah. I think you’ve nailed it there Shannon. There are so many resources and
things out there and everyone’s doing this and that and I get this all the time.
‘Why aren’t I?’, people come in and see me and say, ‘why haven’t you got me
doing this?’ or ‘why aren’t I doing this because my friends are doing that?’
And I go ‘but it’s not right for you’ and I think really success is different for
everybody.
Shannon:
Truly.
Jason:
And you’ve really just have to sit back and look at ‘where do you want to?’
And I don’t think it’s an endpoint, to be honest either. I think it’s a journey and
it’s like, ‘what happy road do you want to be on’ versus the money road or the
working long hours and stress road or you know what I mean? Sitting back
and working out what journey you want to go on, to me is so critical. Is that
how you see it?
Shannon:
Absolutely and then the other thing is, is just really understanding how I’m
wired, how you’re wired. Because there aren’t some natural bents that we
have that, and I call them our superpowers.
We know we’re kind of working in them when, you feel like you could do it
twenty-four (24) hours a day, seven (7) days a week.
Jason:
Yeah.
Shannon:
It feels good, you just love doing it. And that, for me, that is the thing to
pursue. Because that’s the thing that’s going to get you up when it’s hard to
get in, to be in the trenches. You’re fueled by the thing that you are honestly
designed to do.
Jason:
That’s the same as morning people versus night time people if you hit your
straps in the morning or hit your straps at night. That’s when you get your
most productivity done.
Shannon:
Absolutely.
Jason:
Clear your calendar in those times and focus in those times and really make
those eighty 8 0% movements towards your goals and I think that’s…
Shannon:
Yeah.
Jason:
So talking of goals, I listened to a recent podcast of yours. The Epic Success
podcast and you were talking about productivity and goals and looking for
ways to get that extra five (5), two (2) hours in your day etcetera. Can you
talk to us about that a bit more?
Shannon:
Absolutely, so first of all, I love productivity. Because when you can figure out
the little tweaks that you can make, it’s a game changer for how you feel in
your day and that’s, that’s the big thing. So, what most people do and I was
absolutely this person, I used to say to do lists were my love language, right?
We’d write out a thousand to-dos and even if I forgot one I would literally
write it on it and then cross it off. That’s how bad I was.
But it’s kind of like you’re opting into the good versus the best.
Jason:
Yep.
Shannon:
So, I think because of the neuropsychology side of things and what’s going on
in our culture today. We are getting bombarded with email notifications and
Facebook notifications and Messenger notifications and we’re checking our
email, fifty (50), sixty (60), seventy (70) times a day. I mean, you can go on if
you have an iPhone or an android, you can go on and look at your battery
usage and see how long in every twenty-four (24) hours you spend. That’s
one of my first tips for you, is to do that, because sometimes it’s kind of like,
you don’t measure it so you don’t understand it and as soon as you look at
that, it’s mind blowing how much time we spend, in small increments,
checking our email and checking our socials.
Now there’s nothing wrong with that because socials and email are a big part
of how we do business now. But one of the biggest tips is using, is telling your
time where to go. And so planning the night before, exactly the three things
that you need to do to move your ball. I call it my (? 0:20:24.9) goal but your
goal, the thing that will really make success happen for you. And I love
breaking that down a little further in the Academy that you’re in but it’s just
that big goal and then you break it down with three steps and you get it in
your calendar so there’s no way that anybody else’s priorities can take over
that time.
And then the other tip is, I literally Jason, I check my email. Well, now it’s
once a week.
Jason:
Oh wow.
Shannon:
Yeah and that has been the one thing that has changed productivity, period. I
don’t allow myself to look at my email first thing in the morning. Now I didn’t
do that cold turkey.
Jason:
I was going to say, was that a challenge?
Shannon:
No. So there’s some baby steps you want to take and so what I did, is I first
started off by saying ‘okay, I’m going to check email, three times a day.’ I
mean, I was obsessive, I was probably checking it every ten minutes.
Jason:
I can relate to that.
Shannon:
So, if most people are honest we do that. So, I said ‘let’s do this.’
Jason:
As soon as you wake up in the morning, you grab the phone.
Shannon:
Right. But what that does mentally to you is it then you are now taken over, in
your mental capacity, towards other people’s priorities. And that’s most of
them are that, if we’re looking at our business accounts, certainly an
occasional email from the mum or whatever is a good thing.
But having your, the business additional things that you have to do, it loads
your mind up and…
Jason:
Straight away.
Shannon:
.. takes away your ability to go into that deep thinking, creativity mode. So in
terms of the email, what I started to do is I put in my signature line, ‘just to let
you know, I’m only checking emails three times a day. I absolutely will get
back to you in that time but I’m just honouring the thing that I need to do to
grow the business’ or however you want to write it, that’s what I did.
And nothing, nobody died.
Jason:
No.
Shannon:
And I didn’t lose any opportunities, I thought. See that’s the thing, we think
we’re going to miss out because we’re, there’s such an immediacy culture
nowadays.
Jason:
Yep, that’s it.
Shannon:
And if we don’t respond right away, we feel like we’re going to miss
something.
Jason:
Yep.
Shannon:
And that comes from, and now I’m going to get all into mindset, but that’s
certainly goes into a scarcity kind of thing and so you start to train the people
around you. And I mean that in a good way of ‘hey, I’m going to honour things
to make everybody else’s world better, including my own and I will get back
to you’. And so I started with three times and then I moved it to two times a
day.
And I was so much more productive on the email when I was there because I
gave it thirty (30) minutes. I gave it all my attention.
Jason:
Yep.
Shannon:
And then I was done and certainly some of those items went on a to do list
but they didn’t trump my three (3) things that needed to get done that day.
Jason:
You’ve nailed it there, Shannon. Years ago in the accounting practice in my
world, we used to get a customer, or a client would send in a letter or we’d
get a letter, a written request in the post and I’m sounding very old here but.
It would come in the mail and then we would have time to consider the
response and the advice around that and then write another letter and then
that went. And the customer knew, or the client knew that it was going to be
two, three (3) days before they heard back.
Shannon:
Right.
Jason:
Heard back from us or it might be a phone call. But now we, people send you
an email and they ring you straight away and say ‘you haven’t replied’.
Instantly and you go ‘that’s right’. ‘But I emailed you’ and I go ‘yes, that’s good
to know’.
Shannon:
And your point is? And here’s the thing and I get really jazzed up about this, I
knew better based on my background in neuropsychology, what was going
on. So it, I will geek out for you, on you for a second, and that is, what happens
in our brains. What’s going on, it’s extremely interesting to me but at least it
helps you kind of understand why it is so hard to move your goals forward.
It is so hard to be productive and here’s why, when you’re checking your
email all those different times and you’re allowing Facebook notifications, I
hope after this podcast interview everyone is turning off their Facebook
notifications.
Jason:
Yeah.
Shannon:
But the dings and checking the email and doing that and going onto social,
what that does in our brains, is it floods our brains with dopamine. Which is a
feel-good chemical. And our brain is so wired for a reward that it is absolutely
wired that way. So, you’re getting all these mini little bursts of dopamine,
which makes us feel good.
Jason:
Yeah.
Shannon:
So we want to go back and return to get that feeling again and we do it and do
it. The thing that we don’t realise of what it’s taking from us, is the more
dopamine you have flowing like that on a constant basis, the less ability you
have to do deep thinking. To do creative work because that frontal system
has taken over and you’re just looking, your brain is just looking for the next ‘I
need another reward, I need to fill it, I need to have that feeling.’
And the days of really being able to focus, bring your attention down, go deep
and be really creative and really serve in that level.
Jason:
Yep.
Shannon:
It makes it nearly impossible and that’s why we feel like we’re hamsters on a
hamster wheel, never being able to get things done. It’s because we’ve, we’re
in a culture that requires that intensity but we don’t have to play by those
rules. And you won’t lose out.
Jason:
That’s so, that is so interesting because probably relates to why people are
feeling like the weeks are roaring by and that time is flying so much now.
‘Where do the years go, where does the years go?’, ‘oh they go checking your
Facebook and the email’.
Shannon:
That’s true.
Jason:
That’s where they’re going.
Shannon:
It’s so true.
Jason:
I just see it. And I love what you said there about the emails, you’re checking
your emails and that sort of thing. Dictating your agenda for the day, when
you get, if you get up in the morning and you’re going to get up and be
positive and go for a run and have a really good productive day and then the
first thing you did is check your email and I’ve done, I’m so guilty of this. And
you check your email and there’s a problem and that totally changes the way
you go for a run, it totally changes your setup for the day. You start getting
anxiety and..
Shannon:
Yep.
Jason:
..and feeling stressed and it just wrecks your day. And you haven’t moved
your goal or needle closer to anything. It’s really dictated your day. That’s so
cool, thank you for that. It’s, that’s really interesting and I’m glad you geeked
out because it puts some, a theory and construction behind what we’re
talking about, so it’s really cool. Thank you.
Shannon:
And you know Jason, real quick. I just want to throw this, I am not somebody
who has mastered this. That’s the thing, is we look at people and we think ‘oh
they’ve got it together and I just don’t’.
Jason:
Yeah.
Shannon:
That’s those automatic negative thoughts. The reality is, the only reason why
I’m able to do this is because I put systems around it..
Jason:
Yep.
Shannon:
That force it to happen.
Jason:
Yeah.
Shannon:
Because if I left it up to my automatic thinking, I would fail miserably, every
day.
Jason:
Yeah.
Shannon:
And so I put systems around it and I keep my phone on airplane mode and it
comes off airplane mode at a certain time and I protect myself from myself.
Because that, systems are a beautiful thing when it comes to goal set
productivity.
Jason:
Yeah procedures and systems and discipline and small wins, is just keep
checking in on yourself and making sure that you’re on track and doing that.
And is that, you’re checking your emails once a day, once a week sorry.
You’ve had no backlash from that, which is fantastic and I think you’ve
touched on an important point there too. Is that you communicated to
everybody that that is the expectation.
Shannon:
Yeah.
Jason:
So, ‘by all means drop me an email, send me an email but just so you know. My
response will be, possibly in a weeks’ time. Or it won’t be immediate’ and
that’s just taking the pressure off yourself and that’s really cool. That’s a
great idea, I love it.
I know, I’m conscious of your time so I’ll keep moving. Can you, you’re doing a
lot of work with the orphans in Uganda and really making a big difference
there, can you share with us the work that you’re doing over there and about
the Mosaic Ministries?
Shannon:
Absolutely, yeah that is my passion.
Jason:
Passion project.
Shannon:
So, we. My passion project, yeah, we’ve been working now in Uganda and are
restoring the lives of AIDS orphans for twelve (12), I can’t believe I’m going to
say this, twelve (12) years.
Jason:
Yeah.
Jason:
And we started with two (2), Daniel and Dorcus and we work exclusively with
kids who are, and I had never heard of this before, Jason, I don’t know about
you. But child-headed homes. I had never, like that, I had to ask when I first
heard it. ‘Well what do you mean, a child-headed home?’
Jason:
Sounds bizarre, doesn’t it?
Shannon:
And they, yeah. And they started to tell me about the fact that because,
basically AIDS had wiped out the whole middle generation. That these are
families who have lost mum, they’ve lost dad, aunties, uncles that would
normally take care of them. And sometimes it’s a twelve (12) year old caring
for four younger siblings.
Jason:
Wow.
Shannon:
They all drop out of school because there’s only bananas to sell. They still
have to go get firewood and fetch water and, my son’s nine (9) and to think
about him having to become..
Jason:
An adult.
Shannon:
..head of the household, I mean it’s just heart breaking.
Jason:
Yeah.
Shannon:
And unlike in the more developed world where there are some systems
available to be able to benefit children like that, there is nothing for them.
There is no stop gap or safety net for them and they just barely survive.
And so what we started doing, is we started working through local
organisations and churches there. We partnered with them, we started
working with AIDS support organisation, which is an organisation that
basically walks people through the process of dying. But in the same time,
they’re the, they’re a wonderful partner because we now are deeply
connected with them. In terms of which orphans are suffering the most,
which are in the worst situation and we can go in.
We keep all the children together, we keep them inside their home, even if
it’s a mud hut because it’s their only thing that they have left. And we hire a
widower, caregiver to move in with them and restore that family. In a way, as
a surrogate parent and then allows the kids, through sponsorship. We work
all through one on one sponsorships, somebody here in Australia, UK
sponsors and that allows them to go. For us to hire the caregiver, to go back
to school, to start to become kids again.
And they don’t have a voice and I don’t like throwing the numbers around
because I know when I hear the numbers of a pandemic or problems, it just
seems so huge but these are children. They, this is nothing that they’ve done
to deserve to be in the situation they are in. And we need to defend the rights
of orphans and widows, like that. Yeah.
Jason:
I think it’s such a fantastic cause because and mission. Because what I do like
about it is you’re not just going in there and oh, riding into town and we’re
going to fix this and rip everyone out and place them somewhere in America
or Australia or the UK. You’re not saying ‘ok, we’ll save you, we’ll look after
you’, you’re actually respecting their culture..
Shannon:
Yeah.
Jason:
..their country and their whole being and actually taking the solution to them
to take the pressure off them and let them be children again.
Shannon:
Yeah.
Jason:
That, I think that’s fantastic. That’s just fantastic. So and it’s totally voluntary
and you’re all over the world?
Shannon:
We are, well, yes it is and we started with the two kids and we’ve now helped
over six hundred and twelve (612), I believe, orphans to date.
Jason:
Wow.
Shannon:
And we have seventy-seven (77) orphans right now that don’t have sponsors,
we’ve identified that the area in which we work, which is about a two
hundred and fifty (250), I don’t know how to convert it but I’m horrible at it,
but square miles, yep. Pardon my Americanism but..
Jason:
That’s okay.
Shannon:
There are, we know that there are seven thousand, one hundred and twenty
three (7123) double orphan child-headed kids in that area. And so, my vision,
my passion is to get every single one of them.
Jason:
And you’ve done six hundred (600) so far, is that?
Shannon:
Six hundred (600) so far, yeah.
Jason:
Wow.
Shannon:
Yeah and we, we really treat them, this was the vision from the beginning and
of course we’ve made mistakes along the way. But we treat them like we
would want to treat our own children, if we were taken off the planet. So, we
wouldn’t give our own kids everything, that’s kind of the Wild West mentality
we go in and save the day, like you mentioned.
Jason:
That’s it.
Shannon:
But that doesn’t necessarily help.
Jason:
No, it doesn’t.
Shannon:
And so yeah, we treat them like we’d want our own kids to be treated. We
grow them up, we mature them, we counsel them, we do the things that,
we’re a deep organisation that walks them through and helps get them to a
restored life so that they can start making that impact in their own
community.
Jason:
That’s so good, I love it. So, challenges that you’re facing with the
organisation? Like do you have trouble placing, finding people to take up
these roles?
Shannon:
Yeah. The challenges are that we need more sponsors to come alongside us
and getting that message out across the countries and telling people that
they can really. I think that’s the thing, people think, and I know I certainly
was this way too. It’s like ‘well really what kind of big impact can I make with
just one (1) child?’
Well, I can tell you, we started with Daniel. Daniel ended up going through his
orphan sponsorship time, when he finished, graduated. He qualified for
university, so we went back to his sponsor and said ‘hey, do you want to push
him through?It’s up to you but you don’t have to.’
Three (3) year commitment, Daniel went on to get his university degree,
which is unheard of in the area where we work. Just unheard of, point 0001
percent of people go to university down where they are. And he’s now
running a local leadership council which is like a, he’s basically in government,
making changes for his own people, in the social areas of where he works.
Another one, very much like him, Alex. Same thing, just he knew the
opportunity that he had to be sponsored, when a sponsor said yes, he took
full advantage of that. In terms of going to school, doing the very best he
could, doing it with excellence. He knew what he’d been through, so he knew
what a gift it was and he went and got his degree in social justice and he’s
actually working for Mosaic Vision now.
Jason:
Wow.
Shannon:
Which is just full circle, it’s a beautiful thing.
Jason:
And it’s just..
Shannon:
So sponsorship really changes peoples’ lives, just one.
Jason:
Yeah. So in terms of sponsorship, is this in a monetary, like a donation type?
Shannon:
Yeah it is, it’s a monthly donation and again the conversion, I’m not good at
but it’s forty-five (45) US a month and that covers the child going back to
school, it covers their healthcare, it covers that caregiver that’s in the home.
It covers all of that, as well as the support and all of that around it. Helping
just restore their lives.
Jason:
Making a huge difference, that’s fantastic. It really is, good on you.
Shannon:
Thank you.
Jason:
I really love that, I really do. It’s just, when you told me that originally, what
you were doing, I was just. I told my wife, I just said ‘Leanne, that’s.’
I love the fact that it’s going in there and saying ‘hey, we’re here to help.
We’re not taking you away and you’ve gotta change to our way, if you want
help.’
Shannon:
Right.
Jason:
You’re actually just going in there and showing, giving children back their
actual childhood and that’s the beautiful part of it. So, it’s fantastic. Good on
you.
That’s, so Shannon, again I’m conscious of time, your time. I know you’ve
gotta run but I’d like to ask people when they come on this show, something
that is working in your business or in your life at the moment. As an
entrepreneur and a business owner, what’s ticking your boxes at the moment
and working for you and it could be a productivity tip or a software app or
whatever it is. That you’re finding it’s really being of benefit at the moment,
for you?
Shannon:
Well I think, for me, because as entrepreneurs, business owners, we are
multi-passionate. We always have good ideas, we always have our to do list
running, right?
So for me, keeping laser focused on the main goal that’s going to get me to
the finish line and then breaking that goal down into like little actionable
steps that I can do every day. Ten (10), fifteen (15) minutes steps that I can
actually get done.
Jason:
Tick off.
Shannon:
So, yeah and I think the thing is, if you come from a to do list mentality, which
I do and most of us do. Shifting to the idea that you can do three (3) fifteen
(15) minute tasks and be successful, feels really, really strange.
But if we go, and it’s not that I don’t do more than those three (3) things. But
if you go, if you, remember how we talked about the rewards system of our
brain. Our brain’s wired in such a way that those rewards are what makes us
want to continue the behaviour. So, if we allow ourselves the mercy and
grace to say ‘if I do these three (3) things, I will call my day a success’.
Regardless of what happens afterwards, those are the first three (3) things
that we do then they get done.
Here’s what we know and here’s what I know when I do those things, at the
end of those three (3) things, if everything else falls apart, my goal is moved
forward.
Jason:
It’s that sense of achievement.
Shannon:
Yeah, it’s a sense of achievement and it feeds that part of the brain that really
needs that. And then of course, I take the top priorities after that and I get
them done as they are. But I, regardless I can feel successful and that just
builds and builds and builds and builds and until you get to your goal so much
faster, breaking them down that way. So that’s my tip.
Jason:
Fantastic and then your body wants more, doesn’t it? Your brain..
Shannon:
Oh yeah.
Jason:
..give me more of those three (3) successes.
Shannon:
Yeah.
Jason:
Give me more of that. And the problems fall off, yeah. That’s great, fantastic.
Well thank you so much for your time and I really appreciate you sharing
your time with us today. If people want to find out more about you, how can
we find out more about the good work you’re doing?
Shannon:
Oh, thank you. Well you can always find me at our website at
www.drshannonirvine.com if you’d like to connect with our non-profit, that is
www.mosaicvision.org and I’m on the socials everywhere. Just Dr Shannon
Irvine, so I’d love to connect and be able to serve your tribe. And Jason, I just
have to let you know, I am loving the Business Made Easy podcast.
Jason:
Oh, thank you.
Shannon:
I really am.
Jason:
That’s really good.
Shannon:
It’s really good, it’s motivational, I really hope your listeners have subscribed
and are downloading it and leaving you a review because it is really great.
Jason:
Oh, thanks Shannon, that’s awesome. That’s really nice of you to say that.
And you’ve got a course coming up, I believe. Are you launching that in
November?
Shannon:
I am and I’ve, of course I’ve left out that you can always jump over to the Epic
Success podcast and catch all things that way too.
Jason:
Yeah, definitely.
Shannon:
We do, we have a course that’s launching. It’s my Epic Success Academy and
it’s where we really dive into achievement mindset, productivity mastery and
a goal setting system. Much like that tip that I told you, it’s breaking down
how to do that in a very actionable way and if you’re interested, I don’t know
if the Academy will be open or closed. Depending on when the podcast airs,
but you can check it out at www.drshannonirvine.com/epicsuccess.
Jason:
Yep.
Shannon:
And you can jump over there and if we’re closed, there’ll be a waitlist but if
we’re open, you can jump in and I’d love to help you out.
Jason:
Fantastic. Shannon, thank you so much for your time, I really, really
appreciate you spending that time with us and check out Shannon’s stuff,
guys. And her podcast is fantastic, I’m a subscriber and listen myself as well
so yeah, it’s really, really cool.
Alright Shannon, thank you and we’ll talk to you soon.
Shannon:
It was an honour being on Jason, thank you.
Jason:
Good on you, thank you.
Well there you have it guys, that’s Dr Shannon Irvine and I really love that
interview. Thank you Shannon for taking the time to meet with me and we
had a great chat and I hope you got a lot out of that episode as well guys.
Because she really does share some great stuff and does know her stuff.
Don’t forget, if you want to check her out you can check her out on the Epic
Success podcast and I’ll put all the links in the show notes, which you’ll be
able to get at www.businessmadeeasypodcast.com/episode13.
Just before I go, if you haven’t already, and you are interested in joining the
Business Made Easy podcast Facebook group. You can do that by going just
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and we’d love to see you in there, there’s some great discussions happening
over in there and really great business owners and entrepreneurs in there,
sharing their tips and experiences that they’re having in business and yeah
we’ve got some great discussion going on over there. So, I’d love to see you
over there, I’m in there every day as well, helping out where I can.
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But that’s all I have time for this week with you, I’ve really enjoyed your
company once again, thank you for your time and I love doing this and
bringing this show to you, each week. And having you here and until next
week, I hope you kick some goals and have a good week and remember to
implement and take action and we’ll hand over to Mia to take us home.
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